do you think satan would be ruler if jesus earthly kingdom arrived on earth in 1914?.
what are the wtbts thinking?.
WTBTS teaching is that Jesus set up his earthly kingdom here on earth yet is enthroned in heavens. Although, he has not stand up for his people like in Daniel 10.
It is all so strange anyhow, because when Jesus comes to set up his earthly kingdom, Satan will not be ruling!
1874-jesus has come invisibly and is going to start armageddon in 1914--the good will go to heaven.
years later the gbmobile was cruising along and looked into the holy rearview mirror and saw: wait a second that wasnt jesus who came in 1874, that was just our intensified work leading up to jesus coming in1914 which started all the wordly mess.
we should have seen it wasnt armagadon, just jesus coming.. what pray tell would he do.
Good Point! and what a laugh! That is how I feel when I read Pay Attention to Daniels Prophesy! They wrote themselves into Daniels Vision! with dates and everything. As you Know Daniel has no dates and everyone knows what the image represents which are certain kingdom destruction until the Messiah appears.
Anyhow, it really stinks when the WTBTS put themselves in Daniels vision. Do you think Daniel had a vision about 1914 and God kingdom on earth the Jehovah's Witnesses when no other dates were mentioned? LOL it does not even fit! Why would God need Daniel to mentioned Jesus earthly kingdom established date or his enthronement date!
Can you see Daniel stating, "I had a future dream, in 1914 the Jehovah's Witnesses or Bible Students during World War 1 they are the only ones who are God's choosen people." The people would say to Daniel, "What kind of vegtables have you been eating?
Ignore me, Good point Oompa!
in matthew chapter 9 verses 10-13 it says- 10 and it came to pass as jesus sat at meat in the house, behold , many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples.11 and when the pharisees saw it they said unto his disciples.why eat your master with publicans and sinners?12 but when jesus heard that he said unto them, they that be whole need not a physician but they that are sick.13 but go you and learn what that means, i will have mercy and not sacrifice, for i am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.. i noticed a few intresting points in this scripture, firstly jesus was associating with sinners and eating a meal with them.the pharisees were frowning on this in a similar way today the watchtower society has a similar attitude.if we were eating with such " worldly people imagine what sort of advice we would be given inside the watchtower walls, " bad association ".. the most intresting point i noticed though was that jesus said " i am not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance.so jesus must have recognized that the world had righteous people, but he was concerned with teaching sinners the right way.today on the ministry jehovahs witnesses say they are gathering not the sinners but only the righteous " the right hearted ones.seems to me jesus had a more balanced attitude of the world than the watchtower does.
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Jesus came for everyone but at first he came for the lost sheep, tribe! When he was rejected he took it to the streets and opened the door for everyone! As far as bad assoication well the WTBTS misapplied that scripture! So set your self free from WTBTS way of thinking! It is bad conversation look at it in detail. Anyone sitting at the Kingdom Hall can see that it has nothing to do with brothers and sisters! but a guilt trip that has hurt many!
That is part of the WTBTS brainwashing techinques. Bad association! NOT but bad conversation and they still associated with the non christians.
Jesus said not to call him righteous because there was only one righteous and that is the Father who is in heaven.
Here's another thought; WTBTS seem to think when they go door to door, and when a person takes the WT at the door they have the right to Mark that person to righteousness! Meaning that person side steps judgement day with Jesus! So the ones who do not take the magzines are the ones who are going to go off to judgement day!
Jesus opened the door to sit with sinners, taxes collectors, prostitutes to let them know that they will be saved if they believe in him! Unlike the Pharisees of the day! Repentence was a big one with Jesus but I think that he knew that people would have a hard time with repentence. Although it is better to repent and believe in Jesus than feel empty and have no faith!
do you think satan would be ruler if jesus earthly kingdom arrived on earth in 1914?.
what are the wtbts thinking?.
Do you think Satan would be ruler if Jesus earthly kingdom arrived on earth in 1914?
What are the WTBTS thinking?
this is in no way meant to be an accusation.
it's just a question.
it could also be just human nature in general, or a personality type that was attracted to this religion in the first place.. it seems that several problems on this board just won't die a peaceful death.
Yes, how about you?
a brother from my old hall was giving the talk so my brother (who lives with me and has no idea how i feel) signed us up for hospitality.
i decided i should at least make an appearance to stave off the storm a little.
man, i can barely stand being there.
Family is a good enough reason to attend. I think you are out of denial and that is a good sign!
hi friends!.
so, a few nights ago i was on inklink.
(it's a game at shockwave.com, very addictive and fun, pm me if you play or want to .
Happy to see you hear friend of Angie! Have fun posting.
"ask and you shall receive.
" 1 john 3:22, .
the joke of the day.
"Do not be misled. Bad associations spoil useful habits." - 1 Corinthians 15:33
You do realize that quote is what Peter was telling the new Christains regarding associating with nonchristains. JDUBS take that completely out of contexts.
NOW, we can Laugh!
or if you read it in another book it will say BAD CONVERSATION! LOL so is it the associations or just the conversation? I say according to 1 Corinthians 15 1-33 it is conversation! They needed to get a grip on Christ so they would not be swayed!
Now I can laugh! How many times did we here that miss applied! ERRR!
BECAUSE I DO NOT ATTEND AND HAVE TO HEAR THE FALSE GUILT TRIPS!
i don't know if it has been already scanned in pdf, but here is the scan of my own.. booklet of maria russell exposing the treatment of hers by charles taze russell:.
bye.
charles.
Thanks Your 1902 Watchtower, It looks like others here looked at this article and it is the opposite of what Charles said during his divorce procedures! Meaning how Charles viewed Maria! That women went through hell, but a good role for others to follow, divorce the guy.
Thanks for sharing! ;-)
going through and sorting some pictures from the past decade or two and found these shots from the bethel archive room that i helped create while serving at the canada branch.. this should feed the chronology frenzy for a little while.
i believe these have appeared in the magazines before but just in case.... .
and one more .
People really do need to see these picture of the Chart of the Ages! Maybe you can post some more Like the part that represent Christ and it meanings! Certain chambers!
I think it much easier to see the picture on here!
Good Point! People need to see where Russell got his dates! Never saw the Sanctuary.
Did they keep these pictures on their walls so they could study the dates? LOL!
Has anyone ever compared Jehovah's Witnesses dates with Russell's Chart of the Ages? .
